Post by Trinea on Oct 10, 2010 9:37:09 GMT -5
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10/24 19:19:08.478 Ishbaneer: Oy, anyone else comin' out 'ere?
10/24 19:19:26.134 Horkugal slowly turns his attention back to Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:19:58.493 Trinea shifts a little bit uncomfortably and tucks her legs beneath her, sparing a moment to rearrange her dress robes around them.
10/24 19:20:00.228 Ishbaneer lets out a long, drawn-out sigh.
10/24 19:20:05.243 Ishbaneer says: Looks like this is it, then. Alright, then. Well. Tonight, I was 'opin'- bah, lemme stand up.
10/24 19:22:00.681 Trinea blinks, murmuring, "Well how about that..."
10/24 19:22:07.447 Nuhwoti waved warmly to the newcomers. "Welcome welcome!"
10/24 19:22:07.790 Ishbaneer blinks.
10/24 19:22:12.790 Ishbaneer says: Oh! 'Ello there, ye two!
10/24 19:22:13.134 Stãsia smiles, waving at everyone before sitting down.
10/24 19:22:16.525 Creedus greets everyone with a hearty hello!
10/24 19:22:36.243 Ishbaneer says: I, uh...wow, this is a pleasant surprise! We were just startin'!
10/24 19:23:08.493 Trinea leans forward a little, nodding to Creed and Stasia. "Good to see you both."
10/24 19:23:09.806 Nuhwoti says: Must be the timing of the Light.
10/24 19:23:13.572 Ishbaneer nods.
10/24 19:23:33.837 Stãsia smiles over at Trinea, before looking back at Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:23:44.697 Ishbaneer says: Alright. As I was sayin', I've taught a lot 'bout Tenacity and Compassion lately. Second an' third of the Three Virtues.
10/24 19:24:07.681 Horkugal spares a brief glance towards the new arrivals. He welcomes them with a slow an unfamiliar nod, before looking back to Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:24:39.243 Ishbaneer says: But today, I'd like to talk 'bout somethin' we tend not to think of as much. Somethin' that, while not set as as high a priority, or thought as difficult, kin be a REAL pain in the arse to keep.
10/24 19:24:58.243 Uziriaa: WHA! Dat de time?
10/24 19:25:23.150 Nuhwoti leans back on his palms and stretches his legs out; his hooves swayed happily back and forth like a very happy kid.
10/24 19:25:29.478 Trinea: "...poor reception up there? Ish just began; I'm sure you won't miss much." *whispered*
10/24 19:25:42.025 Ishbaneer says: I speak of course of Respect; the first virtue of both Light and Shadow. Now, ye've 'eard me gloss over it plenty of times.
10/24 19:26:00.650 Trinea looks up from her pin, nodding slowly.
10/24 19:26:09.806 Horkugal offers a thoughtful nod.
10/24 19:26:13.853 Ishbaneer says: Respect yer enemies as much as ye respect yer friends, an' all. Right? Respect those ye don't always see eye to eye with. But then we take surface respect and often think it's enough. Just to say we respect someone we still don't agree with, or still try to kill in battle. Really, respect's a lot more deep-runnin', and a lot more practical 'an that.
10/24 19:28:45.009 Ishbaneer folds his arms under his chest, stopping to formulate his next statement.
10/24 19:29:46.181 Ishbaneer blinks at Uziriaa.
10/24 19:29:47.259 Ishbaneer grins wickedly at Uziriaa.
10/24 19:29:52.165 Ishbaneer says: Uzi! Good to see ye!
10/24 19:29:59.743 Uziriaa says: Sorreh! Sorreh I late!
10/24 19:30:02.775 Ishbaneer says: Sit on down, lad! We were just gettin' to the good stuff!
10/24 19:30:05.556 Trinea glances behind her briefly and moves forward a bit to keep the thistle from smacking her in the back of the head endlessly.
10/24 19:30:06.478 Nuhwoti hugs Uziriaa.
10/24 19:30:10.462 Stãsia looks over at Uzi, smiling.
10/24 19:30:23.040 Uziriaa hugs Nuhwoti.
10/24 19:30:45.447 Uziriaa grins sheepishly.
10/24 19:30:48.947 Ishbaneer says: So like I said, we tend to not take respect as far as we should. Often times, we claim it, but don't go so far as to REALLY show it.
10/24 19:30:51.431 Ishbaneer frowns.
10/24 19:30:55.447 Horkugal snaps his head towards the Troll, twisting around in his seat. Another rumble sets into the orc's throat, and he nods to the Hunter in greeting - A faint brightening of respect showing in his eyes, before he turns back to Ish.
10/24 19:31:43.712 Trinea returns her attention to Ish, nodding as she clasps her hands in her lap.
10/24 19:32:00.118 Ishbaneer says: It's the stuff of "I respect yer views, but ye're still wrong." Or claimin' to respect all livin' things, but killin' a person what's crime don't fit it; like stealin' somethin' to get by, or just pissin' ye off. Ye kin claim to respect authority, but grumble an' gripe about the people in charge while ye grudgin'ly do what ye're told. I'll tell ye right now; NONE of that is real respect, folks. So what is, ye might ask? How do we REALLY show respect to someone? Or, something, as it might turn out at times.
10/24 19:34:06.134 Ishbaneer kneels down.
10/24 19:34:16.525 Horkugal watches Ishbaneer closely.
10/24 19:34:21.040 Nuhwoti ponders to himself. Cupcakes? Hugs? Warm smiles? Snowballs? ...Snowballs are always fun.
10/24 19:34:22.556 Ishbaneer says: Well, let's start with somethin' we kin all relate to, eh? Government. Authority. Status quo. We got a lotta words fer it these days, but it all boils down to the people in charge.
10/24 19:35:44.150 Uziriaa ponders the fact that he doesn't respect Garrosh...and decides he's fine with that.
10/24 19:35:59.197 Trinea leans forward, peering around to Uzi. She gives him a warm smile and a somewhat absent wave before turning back with a murmur of agreement.
10/24 19:35:59.525 Horkugal mentally melts Uzi.
10/24 19:36:26.681 Ishbaneer says: When I grew up, back in old Lordaeron, we 'ad a system where we knew who was in charge, and we never fergot it. King Terenas was supreme authority, he 'ad lords what worked under 'im, to whom 'e bestowed power over certain areas.
10/24 19:37:01.447 Horkugal rumbles thoughtfully.
10/24 19:37:26.853 Ishbaneer says: Down at most folk's level, we were farmers. We worked the land to raise food; some of which, we ate. The rest went to the baron, lord, whatever, who owed that food or money 'e made off it to the King.
10/24 19:37:56.681 Nuhwoti raised a curious brow and leaned forward with intrigued interest. He had never heard of this side of Ishbaneer before.
10/24 19:37:59.681 Horkugal snorts, but says nothing.
10/24 19:38:47.915 Uziriaa tilts his head, listening intently.
10/24 19:38:59.228 Ishbaneer says: We often thought in certain situations that we weren't bein' treated fairly. Some places in the countryside 'ad barons what ruled with an iron fist. Ye step outta line, ye get roughed around by the men at arms. Ye gettin' married? He got the first night with the bride. Not the groom.
10/24 19:39:16.556 Ishbaneer scowls.
10/24 19:39:31.556 Trinea blinks faintly and leans back a bit, paling.
10/24 19:39:35.212 Nuhwoti raised a horrored brow.
10/24 19:39:42.556 Uziriaa says: ...dis one o' dem human tings ain' it.
10/24 19:39:54.462 Ishbaneer says: They'd let their farmers starve to death before they themselves had to forgo anythin'.
10/24 19:39:55.072 Horkugal tenses, and responds promptly with a deep-seeded snarl.
10/24 19:40:04.087 Ishbaneer raises his hands defensively.
10/24 19:40:05.556 Horkugal says: Parasites.
10/24 19:40:07.150 Ishbaneer says: Now now. This wasn't the rule, my friends. No, that wasn't the idea King Terenas 'ad in mind at all. He, wise and kind as we all loved 'im fer bein', trusted 'is lords an' nobles to be protectors. A band of peasants could grow a whole lot of food, but who fights if they come into danger from bandits, or- or, uh...ye know, anyone violent what might try to 'urt 'em?
10/24 19:42:04.837 Horkugal slowly simmers down. His shoulders slowly begin to untense, and the deep growl that left him slowly falls into a thoughtful sort of rumble.
10/24 19:42:06.072 Uziriaa puzzles, he can see the unfairness in somethings, the sex part is just not computing.
10/24 19:43:16.275 Ishbaneer says: I mean, it's not like they 'ad anythin' to protect 'emselves with. Ever try to use a shovel and yer woolens 'gainst a man in brigandine, swingin' an axe at ye?
10/24 19:43:54.978 Trinea nods slowly, tucking her knees up to her chest with wide eyes.
10/24 19:44:04.400 Uziriaa stares blankly at Ish.
10/24 19:44:06.056 Stãsia frowns, thinking that would be a very bad situation.
10/24 19:44:08.665 Horkugal lets out a curt grunt, as if the question were an afterthought, but says nothing else.
10/24 19:44:17.197 Ishbaneer says: Their lord trained people to fight fer them, and paid fer their armor an' weapons. That way, we farmers would be protected against the dangers of the world, and our countries could grow with the surplus food.
10/24 19:44:29.587 Ishbaneer folds his arms under his chest.
10/24 19:44:37.540 Ishbaneer says: This seems like it's a bit off track, don't it?
10/24 19:44:47.915 Horkugal shakes his head.
10/24 19:44:47.947 Ishbaneer looks around at everyone, waiting for some form of answer.
10/24 19:45:11.728 Nuhwoti says: Well, the king seemed to respect those whom others considered lowly and worthless.
10/24 19:45:13.790 Rasomil says: I'm enjoying it immensely if it is, Master Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:45:24.837 Trinea is absolutely hung up on the wedding night bit, but she has enough sense to shake her head negatively.
10/24 19:45:49.150 Ishbaneer smiles at Rasomil.
10/24 19:45:52.572 Stãsia smiles, but stays silent.
10/24 19:45:53.275 Ishbaneer says: I'm glad of that.
10/24 19:45:54.181 Uziriaa says: I know ya gettin' dere, I just...tryin' ta get de frame o' ref'rence here.
10/24 19:46:02.525 Creedus leans back, hands on the ground to support him.
10/24 19:46:04.025 Ishbaneer says: Well, I'll get to it then, Uzi.
10/24 19:46:22.025 Uziriaa says: I sorreh.
10/24 19:46:25.025 Ishbaneer says: Nuh's right. King Terenas did love and respect 'is people. Oh no, it's good! I figure this is probly strange material fer those of ye what ain't from around 'ere.
10/24 19:47:00.650 Uziriaa's ears lay back but he's still listening.
10/24 19:47:16.962 Ishbaneer says: Anyway. King Terenas respected us, and 'e showed it by givin' us protection and seein' to it our lords treated us well. And we liked to think he did so out of the goodness of 'is 'eart. And I'm gonna come back to that note in a bit.
10/24 19:48:09.275 Ishbaneer taps his chin for a brief moment.
10/24 19:48:22.572 Horkugal opens his mouth to ask a question, but closes it shut, and nods.
10/24 19:48:24.962 Creedus leans over to whisper something to Stasia.
10/24 19:48:36.822 Stãsia tilts her head up to Creedus, listening.
10/24 19:48:44.165 Ishbaneer says: We didn't 'ave to put up with this all the way, though. Our labor was the lifeblood of Lordaeron, we farmers.
10/24 19:48:48.618 Stãsia nods to is question and whispers back.
10/24 19:49:25.212 Creedus smiles at her, before getting up.
10/24 19:49:25.697 Ishbaneer says: Without us, Lordaeron would whither. The Lords would 'ave no one to feed their soldiers; the King would 'ave no one to enforce 'is words, or keep 'im fed.
10/24 19:50:15.728 Uziriaa says: King, chief, people.
10/24 19:50:16.900 Horkugal nods.
10/24 19:50:42.775 Ishbaneer says: We could've revolted, stopped workin, anythin'! It might've cost many lives, but it would've put a stop to it! And it ain't like peasants ain't kicked some so called nobles in the stones before, neither!
10/24 19:51:17.618 Horkugal chortles darkly, a rattling noise that resembles the crackle of the nearby fires.
10/24 19:51:22.915 Uziriaa snickers, covering his mouth.
10/24 19:51:42.837 Trinea snaps out of her faint daze, frowning slightly. She glances back at Uzi again, this time with a bit more urgency to her look.
10/24 19:51:55.618 Ishbaneer says: But because we kept workin', Lordaeron stayed strong. Because Lordaeron was strong, King Terenas could protect us. Because King Terenas protected without oppressin', we worked 'ard. Because we worked 'ard...Ye see where I'm goin'?
10/24 19:52:21.618 Horkugal nods.
10/24 19:52:51.431 Ishbaneer says: King Terenas' respect fer us as people motivated us to work. Not 'cause he was a bleedin' saint, but because he was nicer to us than 'e 'ad to be, is all!
10/24 19:52:51.790 Trinea puts a hand to her mouth, and once she has Uziriaa's full attention, mouths, 'We need to talk'...and hopes it comes through alright.
10/24 19:52:55.056 Uziriaa raises his eyebrow inquisitively at you.
10/24 19:53:19.603 Uziriaa: Joo okay, Lil' sista?
10/24 19:53:25.618 Stãsia tilts her head, trying to focus on what Ishbaneer is saying.
10/24 19:53:25.962 Ishbaneer says: But lords that treat their peasants poorly got revolted against eventually, and peasants what don't do their jobs are poorly protected.
10/24 19:53:34.290 Trinea nods slowly and murmurs into the pin.
10/24 19:53:37.493 Trinea: "...later."
10/24 19:53:41.806 Ishbaneer says: It's in everyone's best interest if we show eachother a healthy amount of respect.
10/24 19:53:50.040 Stãsia nods at Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:53:52.884 Uziriaa: Kay.
10/24 19:54:12.509 Ishbaneer says: And let's take this in the present day.
10/24 19:54:24.462 Trinea smiles, looking a bit anxious but also relieved, and turns back to Ish with a slow nod.
10/24 19:54:44.665 Ishbaneer says: Thrall promotes equality! Brother'ood! Unity! We can't 'ave any of those without respect, and he treats us all with great amounts of it! Why, even we common soldiers what meet 'im are treated like friends!
10/24 19:55:04.212 Horkugal grunts - Part of it in confirmation, part of it in demand.
10/24 19:55:10.837 Horkugal says: Even the Peons.
10/24 19:55:19.884 Ishbaneer nods rapidly.
10/24 19:55:27.243 Horkugal says: Without whom, we too would also wither and die.
10/24 19:55:32.759 Horkugal grunts, and reclines back into his seat.
10/24 19:55:40.712 Ishbaneer grins, nodding more. "That's it! Aye!"
10/24 19:55:52.134 Horkugal returns the grin.
10/24 19:56:02.806 Nuhwoti hears the word "peon" and has a sudden craving to water a bush. But he decides to wait for now.
10/24 19:56:40.040 Ishbaneer says: Look at Sylvanas! She gave us Forsaken FREEDOM! We might've 'ad to break free by our own mental will, each an' every one of us, but we would 'ave been killed off were she not there to unify us!
10/24 19:57:00.478 Ishbaneer brings a fist forward.
10/24 19:57:26.712 Ishbaneer says: She stands as a strong foundation fer us, and cares more fiercely fer our interests than anythin' else! We Forsaken are her greatest priority! Not wealth, or power, or anythin' of the sort! She has our undyin' devotion, and is content!
10/24 19:58:09.603 Trinea clasps her hands around her knees, nodding.
10/24 19:58:28.900 Uziriaa leans into the palm of his hand, nodding thoughtfully.
10/24 19:58:31.072 Stãsia gives a single nod in agreement.
10/24 19:58:37.118 Ishbaneer says: But is it solely out of the goodness of 'er 'eart? Well, maybe. I like to think so. But even if it ain't- or, even if it is: A wise leader, like 'er, would also know somethin' akin to an old adage we 'ad in Lordaeron. See, she could've enslaved us like the Lich King.
10/24 19:59:09.447 Ishbaneer scowls.
10/24 19:59:20.150 Uziriaa scowls.
10/24 19:59:22.197 Ishbaneer says: We could've gone from one uncarin' master to another.
10/24 19:59:53.197 Horkugal winces at the mention of slavery.
10/24 20:00:11.103 Ishbaneer says: But as leaders in Lordaeron used to say, "Strong, happy peasants raise bountiful 'arvests. Weak, miserable peasants raise poor harvests. Dead peasants don't raise anythin'." Because Sylvanas treats us well, and gives us our sacred right to freedom, she 'as a strong and zealous following. And because we give her our loyalty, we have a strong and selfless Queen.
10/24 20:01:18.790 Trinea frowns and tightens her grip around her legs, dropping her chin to her knees as she nods yet again.
10/24 20:01:23.493 Ishbaneer raises a finger.
10/24 20:01:49.259 Ishbaneer says: And let's not ferget, those that sit 'ere, that she's also granted us who 'ave sworn loyalty to her the right to worship our old faith!
10/24 20:02:10.587 Stãsia smiles at Ishbaneer.
10/24 20:02:17.540 Uziriaa nods.
10/24 20:02:23.165 Ishbaneer says: She may not go out of 'er way to protect us, but she won't kill us fer fear of our faith movin' us to subvert 'er. And because we of our church respect her demands not to push the Light on anyone, so do we gain from bein' allowed to worship who we want; as we want. And on the most personal level, to respect someone is to treat them how ye'd 'ave them treat ye. Do unto others, an' all that.
10/24 20:04:03.150 Stãsia nods at Ishbaneer.
10/24 20:05:17.837 From Nuhwoti: <m> "Would it be okay if I pushed that limit by sharing the Light as openly as I usually do?"
10/24 20:05:24.118 Ishbaneer says: When someone makes a request of ye, 'cause they're in need, think twice 'fore ye say no. Even the simple stuff, like "Could ye 'elp me carry this?" "Could ye not call that man a rotter?" "Could ye tell me when the next zeppelin's comin'?"
10/24 20:05:38.775 Trinea blinks, glancing back at Nuhwoti.
10/24 20:05:44.728 Ishbaneer says: When ye're right an' someone else is wrong, 'ave the respect to be satisfied just with that.
10/24 20:05:47.368 To Nuhwoti: "What do you mean by that, love?"
10/24 20:06:18.618 From Nuhwoti: <m> "I understand not pushing the Light on people, but...I love it so much, I cannot help but to share it with people."
10/24 20:06:24.759 Ishbaneer says: Don't rub it in an' mock 'em. And when ye find yerself in the wrong, don't lash out over it. It's a mortal, normal thing that happens to everyone, and not somethin' to be shamed over.
10/24 20:06:29.681 Uziriaa even others' personal space D:?
10/24 20:07:19.150 To Nuhwoti: "It's never wrong to share it. If they want to, I'm sure they'll stay and listen. ...for my part, though, I can't quite do that. I'm a citizen here, and far more bound by the rules set up when we pledged our troth."
10/24 20:07:20.759 Ishbaneer cracks his back, pausing for a moment.
10/24 20:07:43.212 Ishbaneer says: And what of us, as a church?
10/24 20:07:55.962 Uziriaa listens intently to Ishbaneer.
10/24 20:08:23.509 To Nuhwoti: "...keep this in mind, though. Better to stay silent where necessary than to endanger the church. Spread your Light; spread your love. Just be careful over where and with whom you do it."
10/24 20:08:26.259 Ishbaneer says: I suppose me pickin' this topic 'as been somethin' of a personal matter, due to 'ow we've been lately. By that, I mean we've 'ad trouble respectin' eachother from time to time.
10/24 20:08:49.415 Trinea lowers her chin slightly, eyeing Nuhwoti with a level expression.
10/24 20:08:51.087 Stãsia tilts her head, not knowing any such thing since she hasn't even been around.
10/24 20:08:57.572 Ishbaneer says: I've been less than patient lately, I know fer sure. And I don't like it.
10/24 20:08:59.243 Ishbaneer frowns.
10/24 20:09:04.962 To Nuhwoti: "Better for us to exist, than to not at all, right?"
10/24 20:09:41.931 Ishbaneer says: But it don't 'elp when I ask somethin' of someone, as their leader, and they argue. Or they take bein' told no as me wrongin' them on their part. Did King Terenas and our lords say we had to work? Aye. Did we always want to? Hell no!
10/24 20:10:10.384 From Nuhwoti: <m> "If I feared that the church would be snuffed by just sharing it's message, then I would not have truth faith in the Light. No. I will be careful not to cast our pearls to swine, but I will also trust in the Light to guide me to the right situations and to say the right words."
10/24 20:10:10.415 Ishbaneer says: I'll tell ye what, I was a lazy git in life! But when we don't do our jobs, we suffer the consequences. When yer superiors, here, in the army, in town, anywhere, tell ye somethin' needs to be done, sometimes ye gotta follow; agree or not.
10/24 20:11:15.697 To Nuhwoti: "Of course. I don't mean that, not at all. You must understand the position we're in, however. We're allowed here, we're not legal. It would be a huge step backward for us to have to go into hiding again, like we were from the beginning. I know you weren't here, but believe me, it was not easy. 'Keep the faith; keep it quiet'. That was our motto back then."
10/24 20:11:48.415 Ishbaneer says: Do ye 'ave a right to question 'em? I think so. But do they still 'ave the right to say no? Aye, that's what leaders're fer. 'Cause not everyone kin be right all the time, aye? But what 'appens when the leader's wrong?
10/24 20:13:10.853 Uziriaa mutters under his breath. "When given two conflictin' orders, do both."
10/24 20:13:32.743 Ishbaneer says: Aye, if they do it enough, they shouldn't be in their job, should they? But what if they're wrong once, or just 'ave a tendency, as we all do, to screw up now an' again? I think then, we oughtta forgive 'em. Let 'em keep doin' the good job they USUALLY do.
10/24 20:14:21.947 Ishbaneer glances at the grass.
10/24 20:14:49.618 Ishbaneer says: There's a teacher of the Light's word, in the scriptures, who 'ad this to say. And I think it makes fer a good beginnin' to our end tonight.
10/24 20:15:18.384 Horkugal purses his lips, watching thoughtfully and expectantly.
10/24 20:16:04.931 Ishbaneer says: The Light's kingdom ain't like the kingdoms man builds. If ye follow the Light, one who wants to lead must first learn to serve. The last'll be first, and the first'll be last. If ye serve yer brothers an' sisters, ye'll be honored and rewarded. If ye want to rule, and are proud, ye'll be humbled.
10/24 20:16:58.775 Trinea nods slowly as she turns back around, chin tilted up to regard Ish with a slight smile.
10/24 20:17:15.540 Horkugal rumbles thoughtfully, nodding at the truth he sees in those words.
10/24 20:17:17.447 Ishbaneer says: And as yer shepherd, I know I'm guilty of bein' proud or stubborn at times. But do know it is my goal; my intention; to serve every one of ye as protector, guide, friend, and supporter in times both good an' bad.
10/24 20:18:10.478 Stãsia smiles at Ishbaneer.
10/24 20:18:32.415 Ishbaneer says: And I ask of ye all; don't serve me as a servant would. Practically, aye, I need ye to follow orders some times, in times of danger. But above all else, I just want ye to serve yer fellows.
10/24 20:19:01.665 Nuhwoti cheers at Ishbaneer!
10/24 20:19:05.212 Ishbaneer says: Everyone. King, or peasant. Chieftain or peon. High Priest of the Cult of Forgotten Shadow, or neophyte of the Light's church. Friend, or foe. Thanks, everyone, and good night. I appreciate ye all comin'.
10/24 20:19:25.697 Ishbaneer smiles.
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10/24 19:19:08.478 Ishbaneer: Oy, anyone else comin' out 'ere?
10/24 19:19:26.134 Horkugal slowly turns his attention back to Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:19:58.493 Trinea shifts a little bit uncomfortably and tucks her legs beneath her, sparing a moment to rearrange her dress robes around them.
10/24 19:20:00.228 Ishbaneer lets out a long, drawn-out sigh.
10/24 19:20:05.243 Ishbaneer says: Looks like this is it, then. Alright, then. Well. Tonight, I was 'opin'- bah, lemme stand up.
10/24 19:22:00.681 Trinea blinks, murmuring, "Well how about that..."
10/24 19:22:07.447 Nuhwoti waved warmly to the newcomers. "Welcome welcome!"
10/24 19:22:07.790 Ishbaneer blinks.
10/24 19:22:12.790 Ishbaneer says: Oh! 'Ello there, ye two!
10/24 19:22:13.134 Stãsia smiles, waving at everyone before sitting down.
10/24 19:22:16.525 Creedus greets everyone with a hearty hello!
10/24 19:22:36.243 Ishbaneer says: I, uh...wow, this is a pleasant surprise! We were just startin'!
10/24 19:23:08.493 Trinea leans forward a little, nodding to Creed and Stasia. "Good to see you both."
10/24 19:23:09.806 Nuhwoti says: Must be the timing of the Light.
10/24 19:23:13.572 Ishbaneer nods.
10/24 19:23:33.837 Stãsia smiles over at Trinea, before looking back at Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:23:44.697 Ishbaneer says: Alright. As I was sayin', I've taught a lot 'bout Tenacity and Compassion lately. Second an' third of the Three Virtues.
10/24 19:24:07.681 Horkugal spares a brief glance towards the new arrivals. He welcomes them with a slow an unfamiliar nod, before looking back to Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:24:39.243 Ishbaneer says: But today, I'd like to talk 'bout somethin' we tend not to think of as much. Somethin' that, while not set as as high a priority, or thought as difficult, kin be a REAL pain in the arse to keep.
10/24 19:24:58.243 Uziriaa: WHA! Dat de time?
10/24 19:25:23.150 Nuhwoti leans back on his palms and stretches his legs out; his hooves swayed happily back and forth like a very happy kid.
10/24 19:25:29.478 Trinea: "...poor reception up there? Ish just began; I'm sure you won't miss much." *whispered*
10/24 19:25:42.025 Ishbaneer says: I speak of course of Respect; the first virtue of both Light and Shadow. Now, ye've 'eard me gloss over it plenty of times.
10/24 19:26:00.650 Trinea looks up from her pin, nodding slowly.
10/24 19:26:09.806 Horkugal offers a thoughtful nod.
10/24 19:26:13.853 Ishbaneer says: Respect yer enemies as much as ye respect yer friends, an' all. Right? Respect those ye don't always see eye to eye with. But then we take surface respect and often think it's enough. Just to say we respect someone we still don't agree with, or still try to kill in battle. Really, respect's a lot more deep-runnin', and a lot more practical 'an that.
10/24 19:28:45.009 Ishbaneer folds his arms under his chest, stopping to formulate his next statement.
10/24 19:29:46.181 Ishbaneer blinks at Uziriaa.
10/24 19:29:47.259 Ishbaneer grins wickedly at Uziriaa.
10/24 19:29:52.165 Ishbaneer says: Uzi! Good to see ye!
10/24 19:29:59.743 Uziriaa says: Sorreh! Sorreh I late!
10/24 19:30:02.775 Ishbaneer says: Sit on down, lad! We were just gettin' to the good stuff!
10/24 19:30:05.556 Trinea glances behind her briefly and moves forward a bit to keep the thistle from smacking her in the back of the head endlessly.
10/24 19:30:06.478 Nuhwoti hugs Uziriaa.
10/24 19:30:10.462 Stãsia looks over at Uzi, smiling.
10/24 19:30:23.040 Uziriaa hugs Nuhwoti.
10/24 19:30:45.447 Uziriaa grins sheepishly.
10/24 19:30:48.947 Ishbaneer says: So like I said, we tend to not take respect as far as we should. Often times, we claim it, but don't go so far as to REALLY show it.
10/24 19:30:51.431 Ishbaneer frowns.
10/24 19:30:55.447 Horkugal snaps his head towards the Troll, twisting around in his seat. Another rumble sets into the orc's throat, and he nods to the Hunter in greeting - A faint brightening of respect showing in his eyes, before he turns back to Ish.
10/24 19:31:43.712 Trinea returns her attention to Ish, nodding as she clasps her hands in her lap.
10/24 19:32:00.118 Ishbaneer says: It's the stuff of "I respect yer views, but ye're still wrong." Or claimin' to respect all livin' things, but killin' a person what's crime don't fit it; like stealin' somethin' to get by, or just pissin' ye off. Ye kin claim to respect authority, but grumble an' gripe about the people in charge while ye grudgin'ly do what ye're told. I'll tell ye right now; NONE of that is real respect, folks. So what is, ye might ask? How do we REALLY show respect to someone? Or, something, as it might turn out at times.
10/24 19:34:06.134 Ishbaneer kneels down.
10/24 19:34:16.525 Horkugal watches Ishbaneer closely.
10/24 19:34:21.040 Nuhwoti ponders to himself. Cupcakes? Hugs? Warm smiles? Snowballs? ...Snowballs are always fun.
10/24 19:34:22.556 Ishbaneer says: Well, let's start with somethin' we kin all relate to, eh? Government. Authority. Status quo. We got a lotta words fer it these days, but it all boils down to the people in charge.
10/24 19:35:44.150 Uziriaa ponders the fact that he doesn't respect Garrosh...and decides he's fine with that.
10/24 19:35:59.197 Trinea leans forward, peering around to Uzi. She gives him a warm smile and a somewhat absent wave before turning back with a murmur of agreement.
10/24 19:35:59.525 Horkugal mentally melts Uzi.
10/24 19:36:26.681 Ishbaneer says: When I grew up, back in old Lordaeron, we 'ad a system where we knew who was in charge, and we never fergot it. King Terenas was supreme authority, he 'ad lords what worked under 'im, to whom 'e bestowed power over certain areas.
10/24 19:37:01.447 Horkugal rumbles thoughtfully.
10/24 19:37:26.853 Ishbaneer says: Down at most folk's level, we were farmers. We worked the land to raise food; some of which, we ate. The rest went to the baron, lord, whatever, who owed that food or money 'e made off it to the King.
10/24 19:37:56.681 Nuhwoti raised a curious brow and leaned forward with intrigued interest. He had never heard of this side of Ishbaneer before.
10/24 19:37:59.681 Horkugal snorts, but says nothing.
10/24 19:38:47.915 Uziriaa tilts his head, listening intently.
10/24 19:38:59.228 Ishbaneer says: We often thought in certain situations that we weren't bein' treated fairly. Some places in the countryside 'ad barons what ruled with an iron fist. Ye step outta line, ye get roughed around by the men at arms. Ye gettin' married? He got the first night with the bride. Not the groom.
10/24 19:39:16.556 Ishbaneer scowls.
10/24 19:39:31.556 Trinea blinks faintly and leans back a bit, paling.
10/24 19:39:35.212 Nuhwoti raised a horrored brow.
10/24 19:39:42.556 Uziriaa says: ...dis one o' dem human tings ain' it.
10/24 19:39:54.462 Ishbaneer says: They'd let their farmers starve to death before they themselves had to forgo anythin'.
10/24 19:39:55.072 Horkugal tenses, and responds promptly with a deep-seeded snarl.
10/24 19:40:04.087 Ishbaneer raises his hands defensively.
10/24 19:40:05.556 Horkugal says: Parasites.
10/24 19:40:07.150 Ishbaneer says: Now now. This wasn't the rule, my friends. No, that wasn't the idea King Terenas 'ad in mind at all. He, wise and kind as we all loved 'im fer bein', trusted 'is lords an' nobles to be protectors. A band of peasants could grow a whole lot of food, but who fights if they come into danger from bandits, or- or, uh...ye know, anyone violent what might try to 'urt 'em?
10/24 19:42:04.837 Horkugal slowly simmers down. His shoulders slowly begin to untense, and the deep growl that left him slowly falls into a thoughtful sort of rumble.
10/24 19:42:06.072 Uziriaa puzzles, he can see the unfairness in somethings, the sex part is just not computing.
10/24 19:43:16.275 Ishbaneer says: I mean, it's not like they 'ad anythin' to protect 'emselves with. Ever try to use a shovel and yer woolens 'gainst a man in brigandine, swingin' an axe at ye?
10/24 19:43:54.978 Trinea nods slowly, tucking her knees up to her chest with wide eyes.
10/24 19:44:04.400 Uziriaa stares blankly at Ish.
10/24 19:44:06.056 Stãsia frowns, thinking that would be a very bad situation.
10/24 19:44:08.665 Horkugal lets out a curt grunt, as if the question were an afterthought, but says nothing else.
10/24 19:44:17.197 Ishbaneer says: Their lord trained people to fight fer them, and paid fer their armor an' weapons. That way, we farmers would be protected against the dangers of the world, and our countries could grow with the surplus food.
10/24 19:44:29.587 Ishbaneer folds his arms under his chest.
10/24 19:44:37.540 Ishbaneer says: This seems like it's a bit off track, don't it?
10/24 19:44:47.915 Horkugal shakes his head.
10/24 19:44:47.947 Ishbaneer looks around at everyone, waiting for some form of answer.
10/24 19:45:11.728 Nuhwoti says: Well, the king seemed to respect those whom others considered lowly and worthless.
10/24 19:45:13.790 Rasomil says: I'm enjoying it immensely if it is, Master Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:45:24.837 Trinea is absolutely hung up on the wedding night bit, but she has enough sense to shake her head negatively.
10/24 19:45:49.150 Ishbaneer smiles at Rasomil.
10/24 19:45:52.572 Stãsia smiles, but stays silent.
10/24 19:45:53.275 Ishbaneer says: I'm glad of that.
10/24 19:45:54.181 Uziriaa says: I know ya gettin' dere, I just...tryin' ta get de frame o' ref'rence here.
10/24 19:46:02.525 Creedus leans back, hands on the ground to support him.
10/24 19:46:04.025 Ishbaneer says: Well, I'll get to it then, Uzi.
10/24 19:46:22.025 Uziriaa says: I sorreh.
10/24 19:46:25.025 Ishbaneer says: Nuh's right. King Terenas did love and respect 'is people. Oh no, it's good! I figure this is probly strange material fer those of ye what ain't from around 'ere.
10/24 19:47:00.650 Uziriaa's ears lay back but he's still listening.
10/24 19:47:16.962 Ishbaneer says: Anyway. King Terenas respected us, and 'e showed it by givin' us protection and seein' to it our lords treated us well. And we liked to think he did so out of the goodness of 'is 'eart. And I'm gonna come back to that note in a bit.
10/24 19:48:09.275 Ishbaneer taps his chin for a brief moment.
10/24 19:48:22.572 Horkugal opens his mouth to ask a question, but closes it shut, and nods.
10/24 19:48:24.962 Creedus leans over to whisper something to Stasia.
10/24 19:48:36.822 Stãsia tilts her head up to Creedus, listening.
10/24 19:48:44.165 Ishbaneer says: We didn't 'ave to put up with this all the way, though. Our labor was the lifeblood of Lordaeron, we farmers.
10/24 19:48:48.618 Stãsia nods to is question and whispers back.
10/24 19:49:25.212 Creedus smiles at her, before getting up.
10/24 19:49:25.697 Ishbaneer says: Without us, Lordaeron would whither. The Lords would 'ave no one to feed their soldiers; the King would 'ave no one to enforce 'is words, or keep 'im fed.
10/24 19:50:15.728 Uziriaa says: King, chief, people.
10/24 19:50:16.900 Horkugal nods.
10/24 19:50:42.775 Ishbaneer says: We could've revolted, stopped workin, anythin'! It might've cost many lives, but it would've put a stop to it! And it ain't like peasants ain't kicked some so called nobles in the stones before, neither!
10/24 19:51:17.618 Horkugal chortles darkly, a rattling noise that resembles the crackle of the nearby fires.
10/24 19:51:22.915 Uziriaa snickers, covering his mouth.
10/24 19:51:42.837 Trinea snaps out of her faint daze, frowning slightly. She glances back at Uzi again, this time with a bit more urgency to her look.
10/24 19:51:55.618 Ishbaneer says: But because we kept workin', Lordaeron stayed strong. Because Lordaeron was strong, King Terenas could protect us. Because King Terenas protected without oppressin', we worked 'ard. Because we worked 'ard...Ye see where I'm goin'?
10/24 19:52:21.618 Horkugal nods.
10/24 19:52:51.431 Ishbaneer says: King Terenas' respect fer us as people motivated us to work. Not 'cause he was a bleedin' saint, but because he was nicer to us than 'e 'ad to be, is all!
10/24 19:52:51.790 Trinea puts a hand to her mouth, and once she has Uziriaa's full attention, mouths, 'We need to talk'...and hopes it comes through alright.
10/24 19:52:55.056 Uziriaa raises his eyebrow inquisitively at you.
10/24 19:53:19.603 Uziriaa: Joo okay, Lil' sista?
10/24 19:53:25.618 Stãsia tilts her head, trying to focus on what Ishbaneer is saying.
10/24 19:53:25.962 Ishbaneer says: But lords that treat their peasants poorly got revolted against eventually, and peasants what don't do their jobs are poorly protected.
10/24 19:53:34.290 Trinea nods slowly and murmurs into the pin.
10/24 19:53:37.493 Trinea: "...later."
10/24 19:53:41.806 Ishbaneer says: It's in everyone's best interest if we show eachother a healthy amount of respect.
10/24 19:53:50.040 Stãsia nods at Ishbaneer.
10/24 19:53:52.884 Uziriaa: Kay.
10/24 19:54:12.509 Ishbaneer says: And let's take this in the present day.
10/24 19:54:24.462 Trinea smiles, looking a bit anxious but also relieved, and turns back to Ish with a slow nod.
10/24 19:54:44.665 Ishbaneer says: Thrall promotes equality! Brother'ood! Unity! We can't 'ave any of those without respect, and he treats us all with great amounts of it! Why, even we common soldiers what meet 'im are treated like friends!
10/24 19:55:04.212 Horkugal grunts - Part of it in confirmation, part of it in demand.
10/24 19:55:10.837 Horkugal says: Even the Peons.
10/24 19:55:19.884 Ishbaneer nods rapidly.
10/24 19:55:27.243 Horkugal says: Without whom, we too would also wither and die.
10/24 19:55:32.759 Horkugal grunts, and reclines back into his seat.
10/24 19:55:40.712 Ishbaneer grins, nodding more. "That's it! Aye!"
10/24 19:55:52.134 Horkugal returns the grin.
10/24 19:56:02.806 Nuhwoti hears the word "peon" and has a sudden craving to water a bush. But he decides to wait for now.
10/24 19:56:40.040 Ishbaneer says: Look at Sylvanas! She gave us Forsaken FREEDOM! We might've 'ad to break free by our own mental will, each an' every one of us, but we would 'ave been killed off were she not there to unify us!
10/24 19:57:00.478 Ishbaneer brings a fist forward.
10/24 19:57:26.712 Ishbaneer says: She stands as a strong foundation fer us, and cares more fiercely fer our interests than anythin' else! We Forsaken are her greatest priority! Not wealth, or power, or anythin' of the sort! She has our undyin' devotion, and is content!
10/24 19:58:09.603 Trinea clasps her hands around her knees, nodding.
10/24 19:58:28.900 Uziriaa leans into the palm of his hand, nodding thoughtfully.
10/24 19:58:31.072 Stãsia gives a single nod in agreement.
10/24 19:58:37.118 Ishbaneer says: But is it solely out of the goodness of 'er 'eart? Well, maybe. I like to think so. But even if it ain't- or, even if it is: A wise leader, like 'er, would also know somethin' akin to an old adage we 'ad in Lordaeron. See, she could've enslaved us like the Lich King.
10/24 19:59:09.447 Ishbaneer scowls.
10/24 19:59:20.150 Uziriaa scowls.
10/24 19:59:22.197 Ishbaneer says: We could've gone from one uncarin' master to another.
10/24 19:59:53.197 Horkugal winces at the mention of slavery.
10/24 20:00:11.103 Ishbaneer says: But as leaders in Lordaeron used to say, "Strong, happy peasants raise bountiful 'arvests. Weak, miserable peasants raise poor harvests. Dead peasants don't raise anythin'." Because Sylvanas treats us well, and gives us our sacred right to freedom, she 'as a strong and zealous following. And because we give her our loyalty, we have a strong and selfless Queen.
10/24 20:01:18.790 Trinea frowns and tightens her grip around her legs, dropping her chin to her knees as she nods yet again.
10/24 20:01:23.493 Ishbaneer raises a finger.
10/24 20:01:49.259 Ishbaneer says: And let's not ferget, those that sit 'ere, that she's also granted us who 'ave sworn loyalty to her the right to worship our old faith!
10/24 20:02:10.587 Stãsia smiles at Ishbaneer.
10/24 20:02:17.540 Uziriaa nods.
10/24 20:02:23.165 Ishbaneer says: She may not go out of 'er way to protect us, but she won't kill us fer fear of our faith movin' us to subvert 'er. And because we of our church respect her demands not to push the Light on anyone, so do we gain from bein' allowed to worship who we want; as we want. And on the most personal level, to respect someone is to treat them how ye'd 'ave them treat ye. Do unto others, an' all that.
10/24 20:04:03.150 Stãsia nods at Ishbaneer.
10/24 20:05:17.837 From Nuhwoti: <m> "Would it be okay if I pushed that limit by sharing the Light as openly as I usually do?"
10/24 20:05:24.118 Ishbaneer says: When someone makes a request of ye, 'cause they're in need, think twice 'fore ye say no. Even the simple stuff, like "Could ye 'elp me carry this?" "Could ye not call that man a rotter?" "Could ye tell me when the next zeppelin's comin'?"
10/24 20:05:38.775 Trinea blinks, glancing back at Nuhwoti.
10/24 20:05:44.728 Ishbaneer says: When ye're right an' someone else is wrong, 'ave the respect to be satisfied just with that.
10/24 20:05:47.368 To Nuhwoti: "What do you mean by that, love?"
10/24 20:06:18.618 From Nuhwoti: <m> "I understand not pushing the Light on people, but...I love it so much, I cannot help but to share it with people."
10/24 20:06:24.759 Ishbaneer says: Don't rub it in an' mock 'em. And when ye find yerself in the wrong, don't lash out over it. It's a mortal, normal thing that happens to everyone, and not somethin' to be shamed over.
10/24 20:06:29.681 Uziriaa even others' personal space D:?
10/24 20:07:19.150 To Nuhwoti: "It's never wrong to share it. If they want to, I'm sure they'll stay and listen. ...for my part, though, I can't quite do that. I'm a citizen here, and far more bound by the rules set up when we pledged our troth."
10/24 20:07:20.759 Ishbaneer cracks his back, pausing for a moment.
10/24 20:07:43.212 Ishbaneer says: And what of us, as a church?
10/24 20:07:55.962 Uziriaa listens intently to Ishbaneer.
10/24 20:08:23.509 To Nuhwoti: "...keep this in mind, though. Better to stay silent where necessary than to endanger the church. Spread your Light; spread your love. Just be careful over where and with whom you do it."
10/24 20:08:26.259 Ishbaneer says: I suppose me pickin' this topic 'as been somethin' of a personal matter, due to 'ow we've been lately. By that, I mean we've 'ad trouble respectin' eachother from time to time.
10/24 20:08:49.415 Trinea lowers her chin slightly, eyeing Nuhwoti with a level expression.
10/24 20:08:51.087 Stãsia tilts her head, not knowing any such thing since she hasn't even been around.
10/24 20:08:57.572 Ishbaneer says: I've been less than patient lately, I know fer sure. And I don't like it.
10/24 20:08:59.243 Ishbaneer frowns.
10/24 20:09:04.962 To Nuhwoti: "Better for us to exist, than to not at all, right?"
10/24 20:09:41.931 Ishbaneer says: But it don't 'elp when I ask somethin' of someone, as their leader, and they argue. Or they take bein' told no as me wrongin' them on their part. Did King Terenas and our lords say we had to work? Aye. Did we always want to? Hell no!
10/24 20:10:10.384 From Nuhwoti: <m> "If I feared that the church would be snuffed by just sharing it's message, then I would not have truth faith in the Light. No. I will be careful not to cast our pearls to swine, but I will also trust in the Light to guide me to the right situations and to say the right words."
10/24 20:10:10.415 Ishbaneer says: I'll tell ye what, I was a lazy git in life! But when we don't do our jobs, we suffer the consequences. When yer superiors, here, in the army, in town, anywhere, tell ye somethin' needs to be done, sometimes ye gotta follow; agree or not.
10/24 20:11:15.697 To Nuhwoti: "Of course. I don't mean that, not at all. You must understand the position we're in, however. We're allowed here, we're not legal. It would be a huge step backward for us to have to go into hiding again, like we were from the beginning. I know you weren't here, but believe me, it was not easy. 'Keep the faith; keep it quiet'. That was our motto back then."
10/24 20:11:48.415 Ishbaneer says: Do ye 'ave a right to question 'em? I think so. But do they still 'ave the right to say no? Aye, that's what leaders're fer. 'Cause not everyone kin be right all the time, aye? But what 'appens when the leader's wrong?
10/24 20:13:10.853 Uziriaa mutters under his breath. "When given two conflictin' orders, do both."
10/24 20:13:32.743 Ishbaneer says: Aye, if they do it enough, they shouldn't be in their job, should they? But what if they're wrong once, or just 'ave a tendency, as we all do, to screw up now an' again? I think then, we oughtta forgive 'em. Let 'em keep doin' the good job they USUALLY do.
10/24 20:14:21.947 Ishbaneer glances at the grass.
10/24 20:14:49.618 Ishbaneer says: There's a teacher of the Light's word, in the scriptures, who 'ad this to say. And I think it makes fer a good beginnin' to our end tonight.
10/24 20:15:18.384 Horkugal purses his lips, watching thoughtfully and expectantly.
10/24 20:16:04.931 Ishbaneer says: The Light's kingdom ain't like the kingdoms man builds. If ye follow the Light, one who wants to lead must first learn to serve. The last'll be first, and the first'll be last. If ye serve yer brothers an' sisters, ye'll be honored and rewarded. If ye want to rule, and are proud, ye'll be humbled.
10/24 20:16:58.775 Trinea nods slowly as she turns back around, chin tilted up to regard Ish with a slight smile.
10/24 20:17:15.540 Horkugal rumbles thoughtfully, nodding at the truth he sees in those words.
10/24 20:17:17.447 Ishbaneer says: And as yer shepherd, I know I'm guilty of bein' proud or stubborn at times. But do know it is my goal; my intention; to serve every one of ye as protector, guide, friend, and supporter in times both good an' bad.
10/24 20:18:10.478 Stãsia smiles at Ishbaneer.
10/24 20:18:32.415 Ishbaneer says: And I ask of ye all; don't serve me as a servant would. Practically, aye, I need ye to follow orders some times, in times of danger. But above all else, I just want ye to serve yer fellows.
10/24 20:19:01.665 Nuhwoti cheers at Ishbaneer!
10/24 20:19:05.212 Ishbaneer says: Everyone. King, or peasant. Chieftain or peon. High Priest of the Cult of Forgotten Shadow, or neophyte of the Light's church. Friend, or foe. Thanks, everyone, and good night. I appreciate ye all comin'.
10/24 20:19:25.697 Ishbaneer smiles.
